RED BLUFF PLANNING COMMISSION


MINUTES

Date of Meeting: November 8, 2005

Time of Meeting: 5:15 p.m.

Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers

555 Washington St.


Commissioners Present: Doug Dale

James Brink

Jack Winter

Andrew Christ



Commissioners Absent: Dennison Herring (absent-excused)


Staff Present: Charlie Mullen, Planning Director

Mark Barthel, Interim Public Works Director

Scot Timboe, Planner

Cheryl Smith, Deputy City Clerk


Chairperson Dale called the meeting to order at 5:17 p.m.

Charlie Mullen, Planning Director, reported that Commissioner Herring had called prior to the meeting to say that he would be unable to attend the meeting due to illness and requested to be excused.

Chairperson Dale accepted Commissioner Herring’s request and excused him from the meeting.


A. CITIZENS COMMENTS

None




B. CONSENT CALENDAR

M/S/C Brink, Winter to approve the Consent Calendar.

AYES: Commissioners: Brink, Christ, Dale and Winter

NOES: None

ABSENT OR NOT VOTING: Commissioner: Herring (absent)

1. MINUTES – OCTOBER 25, 2005

APPROVED – 4-0-1


C. CONTINUED BUSINESS


1. UPDATE AND REVISION OF THE CITY OF RED BLUFF LAND DIVISION AND ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDARDS; RESOLUTION NO. 2005-012

Charlie Mullen, Planning Director, reviewed the staff report and gave staff’s recommendation that the Planning Commission:


Recommendation: That the Planning Commission:

1. Continue the Public Hearing.

2. Consider all public testimony and all other information relating to this item submitted to the Commission.

3. Direct staff to make the revisions as requested by staff (see attached) and the staff agreed upon RBTU revisions (see above) and any other revisions deemed necessary by the Planning Commission.

4. Adopt Resolution No. 05-012, recommending that the City Council adopt and implement the revised Land Division and Engineering Design Standards, subject to the recommended revisions being made, based on findings contained in the resolution.

Mr. Mullen reported that staff had met with Mr. Hayden on November 1st and was able to reach an agreement and compromise on the 6 items that were presented by Mr. Hayden.

Item # 1: The following language could be added to Section 3.16 Curb, Gutter and Sidewalk of the Land Division Engineering Design Standards (LDEDS) “The useable width (5 feet) of sidewalks shall not be reduced by the installation of above ground poles, signs or similar obstructions, unless no other practical solution exists and unless approved by the Planning Director and Public Works Director.

Item #2: The following language could be added to Standard Plan Detail No. 0300 of the LDEDS “Where feasible and where sufficient R/W exist, the repair or replacement of exiting sidewalks shall attempt to achieve a separation from the street curb with landscape planter strip. In addition, a new standard sidewalk detail could be added.

Item #3: It was agreed that this item was already addressed in the LDEDS.

Item #4: Agreed to disagree, but it was agreed that items such as this should be discussed as part of specific Bikeway plans and/or the Circulation Element of the General Plan.

Item #5: Agreed to disagree, but it was agreed that items such as this should be discussed as part of the specific Bikeway plans and/or the Circulation Element of the General Plan.

Item #6: Agreed that this item was already addressed in the LDEDS.

Mr. Mullen stated that staff felt that they had a productive meeting with Mr. Hayden.

Chairperson Dale opened the Public Hearing at 5:25 p.m.

Chuck Hayden, Red Bluff Trails United, thanked the Planning Commission for working with Red Bluff Trails United and invited the members of the Planning Commission to attend a Red Bluff Trails United meeting. Asked that staff consider substituting “the useable width” in Item # 1 with “unobstructed width”. He asked that the City collect fees from developers to cover the cost of maintaining and providing additional trails. He would like to see some standards included in the Bikeway Plan or General Plan.

Venita Philbrick, Red Bluff Trails United, thanked the Planning Commission for allowing the extra time to work with staff. She invited the Planning Commission to the official ground breaking ceremony to be held on Thursday, November 10th at 4:15 p.m. at Reeds Creek.

Julie Buer, teacher and member of Red Bluff Trails United, thanked the City for getting started on trails and reported on some potential problems to keep in mind when establishing trails, one of which is abandoned bike lanes and that she is a proponent for some type of barrier between the bikeways and traffic.

There being no further public comments Chairperson Dale closed the Public Hearing at 5:38 p.m.

Commissioner Brink commented on Item #1 and that he asked if it was feasible to delete the word useable and make the wording unobstructed width.

Mr. Mullen stated that he and the Public Works Director did not see a problem with that.

Chairperson Dale felt that the Planning Commission could adopt and send to the City Council with a note that the Planning Commission recommends that the City Council directs staff to further investigate and develop standards to address barriers and bike paths in subdivisions. For one example on Item #4, recommend that the City Council direct staff to investigate a standard requiring permanent barriers and/or obstacles between the bike lanes and the traffic lanes, omitting the words “at least 2 feet high”. This would indicate to the City Council that the Planning Commission is interested in the barrier situation, but are unsure how to address at this time and that way the City Council could direct staff to discuss it under the Circulation Element of the General Plan, Land Division Standards or Zoning Code. Also on Item #5 he would like to change that to recommend that the City Council investigate and develop standards adopting a standard encouraging Class 2 Bikeways within new subdivisions with extensions to adjacent Class 1 Bikeways. For example the barriers, the City could end up with a 2 foot high barrier to a bots dot on the road, but send as a side recommendation to the City Council in addition to recommending adoption of this item.

Mark Barthel, Interim Public Works Director, stated that “bots dots” are specifically prohibited, and barriers are not acceptable in the States standards within the travel way. This is due to the bots dots being a hazard to the bicyclist themselves as they tend to want to use to traverse and if they do hit them it tends to project them out into traffic. This was discussed with Mr. Hayden for safety reasons and asked if Red Bluff Trails United could provide some specifics and examples of how other cities got around this legally.

Mr. Mullen stated that was why staff was concerned and did not want to mandate them in this type of document, but that certainly staff can explore alternatives and look into the pros and cons and the legal ramifications so as to not put the City in a legal situation.

Chairperson Dale stated that he didn’t want the Planning Commission to direct staff to spend time on an issue, but to leave that to the City Council. He just wanted the City Council to understand that the Planning Commission would be in agreement if the City Council wished to direct staff to look into barriers and subdivision bikeways.

Mr. Mullen stated that Commissioners Brink and Christ are the Planning Commission Representatives to the General Plan Update Advisory Committee and that the Planning Commission can entrust them to bring up this discussion during the General Plan discussions.

Commissioner Brink agreed that this should go to the City Council and have it looked at by the General Plan Update Advisory Committee.

Mr. Mullen encouraged Red Bluff Trails United to attend the General Plan Update Advisory Committee meetings when this is addressed. He further stated that in the staff report to the City Council on this item it would be noted that the Planning Commission felt these particular issues required further discussion and that the Planning Commission agreed that it was appropriate to bring them up as discussion items under the General Plan Update. This way the City Council can acknowledge that this item will be discussed under the General Plan.

Ms. Philbrick stated that it was very important that the City Council direct staff to spend time on this.

M/S/C Dale, Brink to adopt Resolution No. 05-012, recommending that the City Council adopt and implement the revised Land Division and Engineering Design Standards, subject to the staff recommended revisions being made, based on findings contained in the resolution and also that the City Council consider directing staff to further investigate and develop standards to address: a) adopting a standard requiring barriers and/or obstacles between bike lanes and traffic lanes, especially where no sidewalk exists on the same side of the street as a bike lane; and b) adopting a standard encouraging Class 2 bikeways within new subdivisions with extensions to adjacent Class 1 bikeways and to the edge of the boundaries of adjacent undeveloped land where bikeway or structures may be developed in the future.

AYES: Commissioners: Brink, Christ, Dale and Winter

NOES: Commissioners: None

ABSENT OR NOT VOTING: Commissioner: Herring (absent)


D. CURRENT BUSINESS

1. PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER; TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 05-52; RESOLUTION NO. 05-014; 2680 ROBIN CT.; MR. BRAD ALLEN (OWNER)

Scot Timboe, Planner, reviewed the staff report and gave staff’s recommendation that the Planning Commission:

1. Conduct the Public Hearing.

2. Consider all public testimony and all other information relating to this item submitted to the Commission.

3. Adopt Resolution No. 05-014, recommending that the City Council approve the Tentative Parcel Map 05-52 with the Findings and Conditions of approval shown in Planning Commission Resolution No. 05-014.

Chairperson Dale opened and closed the Public Hearing at 5:58 p.m. after receiving no public comments.

M/S/C Brink, Winter to Adopt Resolution No. 05-014, recommending that the City Council approve the Tentative Parcel Map 05-52 with the Findings and Conditions of approval shown in Planning Commission Resolution No. 05-014.

AYES: Commissioners: Brink, Dale, Christ and Winter

NOES: None

ABSENT OR NOT VOTING: Commissioner: Herring (absent)


2. INFORMATIONAL ITEM – PLANNING DEPARTMENT CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS STATUS SHEET – SEPTEMBER 2005

Charlie Mullen stated that this was just an informational item only to keep the Planning Commission apprised of projects that the Planning Department is working on.

Commissioner Brink requested clarification on the Durango RV Resort and if it was still being planned.

Mr. Mullen stated that Scot Timboe, Planner, had been working very diligently on this item and that staff is waiting for the developer to submit for Building Permit applications. Mr. Timboe has worked with the Bureau of Reclamation to obtain a trails agreement and has gotten that agreement worked out.

Mr. Timboe stated that the developer is still working on some of their improvement plans and staff is waiting for them to finish up with their improvement plans for the out fall into the Sacramento River.


3. INFORMATIONAL ITEM - CITY OF RED BLUFF FACTS AND DEMOGRAPHICS UPDATE

Charlie Mullen reported that this item was also an informational item only.


E. STAFF ITEMS/REPORTS:

Mr. Mullen reported that item for discuss at the November 22nd meeting will be an update of the Crystal Motel Code Enforcement issue by the Building Official and a Use Permit modification application for Kimball Crossing Apartment Project.

There being no further business Chairperson Dale adjourned the meeting at 6:18 p.m. to November 22, 2005 at 5:15 p.m.

Respectfully submitted,


Charlie Mullen

Planning Director